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Wedding Cosmetic Surgery w/Dr. Jeffrey Swetnam and Sarah Swetnam Roberts



Have you ever considered cosmetic surgery or even a less invasive procedure? Would you consider going "under the knife" prior to your wedding? Join us as we talk with Dr. Jeffrey Swetnam of Swetnam Cosmetic Surgery to talk all things weddings (his daughter Sarah joins too - she just got married AND works in his office) and cosmetic surgery - what to look for in a surgeon, how soon prior to your wedding it's safe to have a little nip/tuck...

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Hey, I'm Brock with Brock entertainment and Amanda with Amanda Reed weddings. And this is the IDOIQ Podcast, where each and every week we're gonna be discussing the latest in wedding and event trend. And we're going to let you know all the things that you need to know in order to make your event the most special. Yeah, and Indian, you will have the best wedding and event experience ever. And something tells me we're gonna have a little fun along the way. I don't know about that. I'm a pretty serious guy, man. And this is a serious topic. So only seriousness, serious business. This is the IDOIQ podcast. Let's begin. Hey, it's Brock and Amanda asked you what I did there. Amanda let you actually talk this. Let me talk. Thank you for that, say your own name. And this is the I do IQ podcast. We're so glad you could join us today. And we got some very special guests. Amanda, I'll let you introduce them. Oh my gosh. Thank you. I never contenders guests either. So we have Dr. Jeffrey sweat Nam and his sweet daughter, Sarah sweetnam. Roberts and they're both with Platinum cosmetic surgery in Fayetteville. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Sarah introduce the cow behind you as well. We don't want to let that not introduce our team. kitchenette area. Join. Thank you guys so much for joining us. We always like to start the show off with our obsessions. What are you obsessed with? Amanda? We'll start with you. Okay, my current obsession is jack Garrett. Do you know him he's a musician at the British musician. And he's got a new album coming out in a month and I'm like dying waiting for it. I've loved him for a while and it's kind of on my current playlist and he's got a new album coming out in a month and I'm dying ready? Is he going to be doing a live like playing of the album online? Probably I can't I mean, I don't know how to drop an album these days. So probably because one of my favorite artists did a Facebook Instagram Live thing the other day the lead singer of the band civil Twilight and he just played his songs and then we talked to the people in the comments live via video we'll look into that I'll find out that'd be really cool because I kept posting random funny comments about my my best friend was on watching it as well. And I said I fell in love with my best friend David to this song and seeing if he would respond to us. That's awesome that they didn't know ah, I can't believe that you didn't Sarah What are you into? What are you obsessed with right now? Jacob and I are obsessed with watching the barstool at home frozen pizza reviews. I don't know if any of you Dave the guy that is like the creator of barstool. He does pizza reviews in normal land world. And he is now doing them at home in quarantine in New York. And he's doing frozen pizza. So Oh my god. Amazing. I have seen those pizza reviews. But what is his favorite frozen pizza right now? Right? I haven't watched him in a couple of days. But I think he's, he loves Amy's pizza. Is he like, really dislikes digiorno Garner's like the last on the list. So he was saying Why? And man, I love a beggar advice I've never heard of which is kind of it's cool to when Jacob goes to the store. He looks for him. Frozen section. So that's really funny. I like that. I love that. All right, Dr. Jeff, what are you obsessed with? I'm obsessed with a lot of things. But obviously, I've been reading a lot about this, you know, the COVID thing trying to educate myself. But what I've been doing is re upholstering chairs. Whoa, is that a new thing you just discovered you like to do? Well, I don't know if I like to do it. I just had to be done. I looked at it. I thought that like that hard. And in it. It's actually kind of fun. It's pretty, pretty interesting. It's one of those things that you kind of get into and all of a sudden four hours are gone. And yeah, you look at your progress. And it's kind of satisfying, really. So I've got four more to do. And hopefully I'll get those done before this deal is over. Because you know, normally I don't have time to do it. No, that's so cool that my mom has taken a class in a pollster and she's done several things around my house. And it's definitely a science like it's definitely like a I don't know, I love that you've dug into it, figure it out. But I mean, it can't be too different from like, you know, putting people back together. If you're putting a chair back together. It's not too different from putting people back together so I can see why it's a natural fit for you. And I've been painting a little bit I took up I got to know Barry Thomas. I don't know if you all know him but I met Barry. He kind of got me interested in painting and so I kind of we text back and forth and he gives me a little hints and so I started painting and then I just went to oils a couple about a month or so ago and started painting a little bit too if the weather's bad, I don't feel Like you know, get that get wet all pizza. That's so cool. Is there artists over here? Jeez, deal with people who are like incredibly talented and multiple places like I know several actual physicians just like you who are they are into painting and they're singers and they're dancing and like they've got multiple talents. So what's that? I think if you're just like crazy smart you're just crazy smart in every area. What is Oh no, I think it's it's just type A and you think maybe you think you can do anything conquer all the things so you try. He tried all I think some people just afraid to try stuff. Maybe so well, I think that's pretty cool. I love I had no idea all this time I've known you. I didn't know that you were a painter and upholster your go to guy for everything now not just the Botox. That's like a Jerry Seinfeld joke. What is the deal with all these smart people? What's the deal? Oh, I'm good at is talking. What is the deal? rockets currently obsessed with, like impersonations? I guess. No. I wish what I'm obsessed with is master class. Have you guys heard of master class, I haven't done it. I haven't pulled the trigger. I bought it at Christmas, because it was a two for one deal. So master class is an online class, like different classes that you can take and you sign up for a yearly subscription. And it's with professionals in those fields so you can learn how to cook from Gordon Ramsay, you can learn how to talk to people from a former FBI agent, like negotiate you can. I've been learning comedy from the comedians on how to write comedy or like I'm not good at telling jokes. I'm good at playing off people who tell jokes and being funny that way. But I'm telling a joke or a good story, I am the worst. So at Christmas, I bought it for my brother as a gift. That was his gift. But in return, it was a two for one deal. So I got my own master class. So it was a gift that gave to me just as much as it gave to him. Well, and they're doing the to point out too, they're still doing that. It's a great deal. It lasts a year, you should definitely try it because it's worth it. Especially if you've wondered, you know, I wonder how they do that. Or I wonder how they do that. Yeah, I mean, you won't learn the ins and outs, probably it's not super in depth. And there's only you know, so many episodes. So it's not like taking an online college course. But it does give you the insights and how you can work things and how to write and how to. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'm glad to know I've been wanting to ask somebody who's doing that. Like, is it worth the money? That's good to know. If you if you do it like I forget I have it and forget to make the time and my brother. I don't think he's listened to it or watched it at all. Oh, that's a bummer. Yeah, because he's not that smart. And I was trying to help him get smarter. But he doesn't care. He has these tools now. Exactly. So now it's on him. This is on you, brother. This is on you. There. You want to go for two for one with me. Yeah, we can learn some skills. Yeah, I'm all about it. It's really good. So I love that. Well, I want to jump in here and start talking to Dr. Sweat and Amanda Sarah both about what they do. But Dr. Swettenham tell us what's your history? What's your story? Where did you come from all the all the things about you give us you in a nutshell. Oh, yeah. I'm from Richmond, Missouri, which is a little spot in the in the road kind of Northeast of Kansas City, went to high school there and I never thought it would happen. But I applied to the University of Missouri Kansas City six year medical program, which you get into right out of high school, lo and behold, I got an interview and I went and interviewed and I never thought I'd get in there but I got in and so I started medical school with a six year medical program which gave me my bachelor's degree and my MD degree pretty much at the same time from there I went through the match my interests leaned towards the surgical field and and so I entered the match and I got matched to Tulane and New Orleans. So I went to New Orleans and did my five year surgery residency there did my internship and residency there and ended up coming out of there going back to Missouri working there for about four years that's actually where Sarah was born and and did general surgery and vascular surgery and then a friend of mine who I trained with a too late called me and needed some needed somebody in Tennessee so we moved to West Tennessee and we were there for about 18 years doing general surgery and vascular surgery and my interest kind of started you know, heading towards the cosmetic field there and and so I decided to go back and do a fellowship which took me to Tulsa, Oklahoma where I trained with Angelo Kalina and James Koehler, I did a one year fellowship and cosmetic surgery it took the facial cosmetic boards and the general cosmetic boards and passed both of those thank goodness and state and in Tulsa and in northwest Oklahoma or northeast Oklahoma area for I don't know about from 2008 till 2011 well 2008 till 2015 and then we moved over here to Northwest Arkansas. I've been here ever since. And so my practice is probably 95% General cosmetic surgery and, and 5% general surgery, which I still do a little bit of and we do like that. Yeah. And when I do a lot of I do vein stuff to my always my vascular experience, I do a lot of varicose vein things and spider veins and that kind of thing. And that's, we don't do a huge amount, but that's probably three or 4% of our of the practices. Well, Wow, I didn't realize that I don't think I need it. I don't think I knew that you had a history with just general surgery, either in vascular that's really interesting. And I love that you kind of again, you got you got like, well, let's try something new. Let's figure out something else. Right. So what drew you into cosmetic surgery, though? Like what what was it that was appealing to you? Well, I you know, I never thought I was artistic. I mean, I never even crossed my mind that I was going artists over here is not artistic. I never thought I was I mean it just never you know, everybody in high school, we have to take art. So I took art class, but it was kind of, you know, with my but with your buddies and everything, it's kind of a joke. And everybody laughs at the artists and all that stuff I just never thought I was and as things went on, that's where kind of where my interest led me was to the more artistic kind of thing and looking at faces and bodies and looking at symmetry and looking at all those things. And they all kind of fit into the cosmetic world. I mean, that's what you're doing. You're trying to make things more symmetric or right, correct. And asymmetry or, you know, fix a problem or fix a perceived problem that somebody might have. And I've always been pretty good with people. And that's another big part of cosmetic surgery is trying to get into somebody's head and figure out what they're thinking. Right. And so we spend a lot of time I spend a lot of time doing that and, and take pride and try. I don't get it. I certainly don't always get it right. But I try really hard to understand what people are saying, you know, like if they don't like something on their face, exactly. What are you talking about and trying to try to get in their head figure out what what they're seeing when they look in the mirror and try to to decode their verbiage so that I can figure out what they need to have done or what needs to be done. So that is so interesting, too. And I'll tell you, it's really hard to have a conversation with Dr. Sweat them because I feel like he's just picking my face apart. Why would you pick? What do you want to change on me? Why Canvas was so hard? And I know Well, I hope you're not doing that. Hard to think that you're like, that's all you see is my lines. What do you want to fix on me? So I really, I don't know. It's pretty cool, though. And I will say he's got the most beautiful wife. I got to share this. Also his wife is beautiful, but she's a very natural beauty. So I'll say that she doesn't look like she's married to a cosmetic surgeon. There you go. She looks beautiful. So I'm think she's a true testament to his work. I will say that. Okay, well, that's such a cool story. I really don't. I don't think I knew how much background he had another thing. So Sarah, where do you come into the picture here? how did how did you come along? Here let me mom and dad. It starts with an egg. And yeah, so here we go. That comes together. And then nine months later? Yeah, exactly. Sorry about that. How did you come into the cosmetic surgery practice with your dad? Well, so I found out through the grapevine that he was hiring a registered nurse. And he always said he was never going to do that. And I found out about it. And so was the great fine mom. I don't know like, Yeah, probably probably. Yes, it was her. And so I was like, well, I talked to Jacob about it and decided that I was going to apply for this job. So I got online. I didn't say anything to him about it. Because I didn't want to be you know, the daughter and with everyone. I just wanted to didn't want to look at me differently. Because I was his daughter. I ended up getting an interview did the interview with HR office manager and they offered me the job. So I knew I always wanted to get into it. I wasn't completely happy with what I was doing at the time. And now and I love it. It's awesome. I wish we could get back to it. I bet you do. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about I think I should also say Sarah is one of my former clients. I remember this conversation whenever you were interviewing with your dad. I think that's one of our very first meetings. Two and a half years ago, probably and I remember being like you're doing what you're interviewing with your dad. And sure. Okay, okay. I love it. And then you were like we're the first people you called your parents. Oh, that's awesome. Well, I do remember this, though. And I love that conversation. But yeah, so Sarah is one of my former clients. We had a beautiful wedding last year. Thanks to you. Well, thanks to you guys, though y'all were like the coolest clients ever. And I just thought this would be such a good conversation. Because, you know, I actually sent Sarah, my timeline that I work with clients there, and I was like, give me your thoughts. Let me know what you you know, what do you think you should change in this? What should we add to this? I'd like your input. And she sent back some thoughts and actually their timeline, the sweetnam cosmetic surgery timeline as far as if you decide you want to have procedures done prior to the wedding. And I thought this would be a really good topic, because I think that's something that a lot of Brides, I don't know how many I'd like to know, curious about that kind of stuff. But like, how many brides Do you talk to you do? Is this something you see a lot of I definitely have had? I know, I've had girls that have had breast augmentation done, you know, before the wedding? And sometimes I'm like, oh, that seems risky. Did that a little too close to the wedding? Or maybe not? So I'm curious to know, timeline on that sort of thing. What do you see the most? I've got lots of questions for you. So what do you want to start? I don't even know. There's so many questions. What do you see as the most what do you do the most stab? Let me ask that. First of all, what procedure Do you do the most of it offers procedures and stuff? I would say it's probably injectables. Mm hmm. You know, we do tons of Botox and xeomin is what we have started using the most of we do some injectables, and then and then we do like a, you know, a ton of liposuction, which really, yeah, which people there's a lot of misnomers about liposuction out there in the world. And, and it's really a very safe procedure and other a lot of minimally invasive or non invasive ways to reduce fat, and we do all those as well. They're just not as good. They're not as good because because I can't control them, you know, they it's kind of a technology, you stick something on yourself and and you cross your fingers and hope it gives you what you want. Yeah, and the machine isn't talking to you, it isn't figured out what you perceive your problem it is and I am and and so I know what you're after, or try to figure it out. And and then after a lot and liposuction, even if you're having a face lift or breast dog or a tummy tuck or anything, there's pretty much liposuction involved in all of that stuff. Really, that's interesting. Okay, it's a way to fine tune all of those all of those procedures. And then we do a lot of tummy tucks a lot of mommy makeovers, a lot of breast augmentations. A lot of eyelids, brow brow lifts, you know, face stuff like that, and they're all those things kind of rotate through the seasons, you know, yeah. Okay. So it's kind of interesting, the, you know, it for wedding stuff, you know, it's kind of depends on your age, really, really young women, they really don't need anything on their face, if they if they feel like their breasts are too small or something along those lines, that's something that we can certainly help with. There are those that have a pooch somewhere or, you know, maybe a saddlebag or something like that, and that's where, you know, pointed real fine liposuction does a really good job. And, and we were you know, and if you're going to have a procedure like that we recommend for prior to any major event, we try to give it three months, okay? And that allows you a good time to heal. It allows if you if you do have a problem and need something, you know, an adjustment or something along along those lines, there's time enough to get that done as well. But the longer healing time, the better. Yeah, for sure. And with Botox and those kind of things. Generally, you could do those, you know, a week to 10 days before because it takes about a week to 10 days for those things to work. You always have to worry about a bruise or something like that, though. They don't happen very often, but they do have Okay, yeah, you don't want to show up on your wedding day. Your face. Oh, yeah. With a black guy. Not good. We also have a full spa to all the sponsoring I realize that. Yeah, okay. Massage Therapy, all the things no massages, facials, okay. The hydrafacial machine, she'll do brows eyelashes, all that. Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. Okay. Laser hair removal. Yeah, all that Amanda. Everybody wants to know what all have you had done? And I can't hear you. Nothing all natural. Always all natural. pretty natural. I will be very honest. There's not much there. I'm been talking to them about a couple of things, but pretty natural. Five years ago, I was an Asian man. 95 year old Asian man. And and I got some work done and look at me now. Great. The Job Corps is working. See, I'm good at playing. I couldn't have just told that joke straight out. So what Okay, let that bleeding into that. What do you see men do? Do you have many male clients and what do you see men going for? Because Brock is He really he's wanting to get some more work done obvious what I need so much work well for man for the non evasive stuff and a lot a lot of men are doing laser hair removal, guys. Well there's, you know, you've seen those guys on the beach that they're they're trapping wearing a sweater. Yeah sweater, a sandy sweater, everything laid out in the sand. And it works really well for that we have some of the best technology for that too. We've got a alexandrite you know, brand new laser for that. And it works really well. Does it hurt? You know, it's nothing like it used to right. You know, this, this laser is compared to the IPL that we used to use and the and the 1064 YAG laser that we used to use this is essentially pain pain free but but it does, it feels just like a little pop every time a thing goes off, but it covers a pretty big spot size. So it's it's fast. You know, it's it's real fast. So no, it's not. It's not something that you know, you're gonna want to do on Saturday night for a good time. But yeah, but it's, it's it's certainly it's way better than it used to be. numbing cream. Yeah. Back in the day, I got one treatment done. It was a radio thing on my neck, and they had to numb us up and it still hurt. But what was cool was, you know, like, a week or two later, you go like, with your fingernails down your neck and the hair is just falling out. Yeah. Cool. So cool. Yeah, yeah, well, did it last for you? Well, I just had the one treatment. So it I mean, it didn't really do much, except that first initial thing, you're supposed to get what like six to eight treatments or something like that? Well, this new laser, it's, it's gonna end up being fewer, you know, because it's just, it's just more effective. But you know, get Laser Hair reduction. And then what, what you're doing is you're using that light therapy to kill stem cells in the hair, bald itself. And that's why the hairs get fascinating. You know, they get thinner, because there's there's fewer stem cells producing the, the hair itself, but hair is a funny thing. And you know, that's why as we as we get older, you know, like me, you start noticing hair growing in places that he didn't, didn't use to grow. Why the heck is Yeah. And and so hair is funny, you know, there's different phases of hair growth, and they can kind of kick off at any time. So, you know, the idea of laser hair removal result is about 890 90% reduction in there. Yeah. And what hair does come back is a lot finer than it used to be so so we have that for man, where we have this new deal that we've been doing called mirror dry. You know, those guys that walk around that not only are they hairy, but they got these big, wet sweat stains under their arms and everything and those are all those are the sweater guys. Yeah. And and no, no deodorant works. And you know, they're, they're going home and change their shirts, or they go to church and their trunk or whatever a mirror dry is a is a way that you can permanently get rid of those sweat glands. And so it's, it's, it's 85% effective with one treatment takes about an hour, but it gets rid of the hair. And it also gets rid of the sweat gland, which has the odor gland, the sebaceous unit along with it, so it gets rid of odor, hair and sweat all at the same time. And so we've been doing that for man. And then of course z men and Botox for men is a big deal. And you know, we do, I would say, a fair amount of liposuction and, and guys add men's and things. And then the other thing that we see a lot in younger guys say 3030 and under is breast butter move or gynecomastia. There's a lot of guys that have done, you know, they're all all young men usually get some gynecomastia during adolescence, and it's just, you know, when the testosterone surges, a lot of that testosterone is kind of converted to an estrogen like substance that makes the breast bud kind of grow. So you see these, you know, you see young kids, their, you know, their nipples are sticking out the guys and they're, they're obsessed with it or whatever. Well, most people that goes away by the time you're 18 to 20, early 20s, that usually subsides as as hormones kind of level out, but in time, it doesn't. And then there's a whole other group of guys that are, you know, they're they're taking supplements and working out a lot and those can end up causing breast buds to which are, you know, they don't really cause a any physical harm, but they, they definitely cause a lot of mental anxiety and, and that kind of thing. So we do a lot of that too, you know, combined liposuction of the chest with removal. I was a dekap in high school. So yeah, I set up and I said it Yeah. So if you're just listening to this podcast, we also have a video, the same thing on video on our YouTube page. So I'm gonna take off my clothes right now in this video. And I want you to tell me Doctor, what should I have done? Ladies, close your eyes. You're not gonna want to see this. It's Oh my heavens, I don't even know. Oh my goodness. Okay, stay tuned. Stay tuned. It's that's a whole other episode. Yes. Yeah, I don't think that's even something we can get into. This is fascinating to me it really is and to know, like, I'm thinking even about the sweat gland thing. Is it dangerous? Is it dangerous to not be able to sweat under your underarms? Yeah, I think about stuff like that. Like, I mean, talk me through that a little bit. I'm just curious, you know, how does that well it's one of those things we used Botox for for a long time. The problem with Botox is you have to do it again. You have to use a fair amount of Botox so it's it's not a cheap thing l A lot of people want to try to get their insurance pay for but you know, insurance, they don't care if you sweat. It's not it's not a it's not a health issue. And you've got plenty of sweat glands. So you know, other other glands will take over and, and they're actually work on FDA approval for the pubic area. Because really how that that can be a problem too. And a lot of people don't like no hair down there either. So you get her hair, get rid of hair and sweating in the pubic area at the same time. He wears one stone, do you know? Amanda, do you like I'll ask both of you. Are you a fan of your man taking care of himself down there? Or does it matter to you also, Sarah, answer first. You're the newlywed Sarah. I mean, everybody should put a little bit of attention on their personal grooming no matter what area of the body if you're not a disco fan. No, I'm not a disco. I'm sorry. I got it. So when he starts talking about like, wet in that area all sweaty balls. That's right. He balls. Yes. I mean, that's that's the truth. Or the delicious dish talking about sweaty balls. I was just waiting for it. And nobody said it. manscaping That's it. There you go. There you go. I don't even know what else to ask now because I feel like we've touched on so many things so far. Have you ever had your nose done, Amanda? I've not had my nose down. Are you kidding? I had I had my nose done in 2011 I had a deviated septum. Really. And I had keys people always say that excuse people, you Oh my god, they didn't fix anything. Literally, I couldn't breathe out of the right side of my nose. And it was Oh, it sucked. I hated it. You have that all that stuff stuck up in your nose for like a week. And then they finally get to pull it out and you're like, Ah, so much better. So much more. But you can't you still can't move your nose around too much. It's Oh, I used to watch what Beverly was at Beverly Hills, plastics or whatever that surgery show. 210 Yeah, doctrine on it. Yeah, whatever that was. And I was always like, I know him. He really? Yeah, I was always like, horrified. Like I was thinking when you're talking about life. Oh, I was like watching them like with that paddle. It just looks so aggressive and arm workout, I'm sure and the noses it's like they've got a chisel and I just can't even thinking about your little face just being like demolished. Like That is crazy to me. But the results are always so amazing. So that leads me into a little bit of Do you do any reconstruction type things you ever do much reconstruction or also revision of someone else's? Not so good work? And who are those not so good doctors you stay away from? That's a hard question right there. Right? That I won't answer but the my board certification is in cosmetic surgery. I'm not a plastic surgeon, plastic surgeons, there are several in this community that really good at doing reconstruction. I don't do that. That's not my training and cosmetic surgery what what we focus on, you know, just making things better. And so, you know, in a plastic surgery fellowship, what they do is they do they spend time doing hand surgery, they spend time doing reconstruction, whether it's breast or flaps for, you know, big wounds, things like that they spend time doing that they spend time doing burns, they spend time doing cranial facial type things, and then they spend time doing cosmetic surgery. So he they do a lot more than we do. My specialty is is 100% cosmetic surgery. Okay, and that's all that's all we do. So that's a long answer to a short question, which is no, that's a good answer, though. No, I honestly never really thought about the difference in the two I guess that makes total sense. I just I guess I just assumed that they were one in the same so thank you for clarifying that for sure. Yeah, it's it's uh, I don't claim to be a plastic surgeon. I'll do that. I'll do all the things they do. But but that want that one little section. We've just expanded it to where I mean, in my fellowship in our cosmetic surgery fellowship that you have to do a minimum of about 350 cases and in mine, I did 1300 I think Oh, wow. Oh my gosh, it was it was a lot. It's very busy. And we were running like crazy. And and what was the second question about just revisions of Oh, yeah. Yeah, I said we do a lot we do a lot of that. I mean, there are a lot of, there are several people that tout themselves as aesthetic surgeons, which is a that's kind of a code word for untrained. And so so what they do is a, you know, they and they make they can they can come from emergency room, physicians, there's, you know, even bariatric doctors that, that go do weekend courses and learn how to learn how to do liposuction. And then, Gary, yeah, a very scary it is, it is scary. And and you know that once you get a medical license, you can pretty much do anything, if you can find a hospital, they'll let you do it, I could do you could do brain surgery, you know, that's where I got my brain surgery. Yeah, some dude, some dude, you know, once you go to medical school, and he passed the examination, and you get your MD degree, and the state gives you a license, there's really not a lot of restrictions on those licenses. So right now, with insurance companies cracking down and all these things, there are a lot of people that are trying to get out of the insurance business or trying to supplement their income somehow. And so. So you have a lot of people that aren't really qualified out there doing stuff, they actually the medical boards trying to get a handle on that somewhat, you know, there are a lot of Rn ends lpns, even estheticians that are that are in doing injectables that really don't know how to manage complications and are poorly or may be supervised by a guy and the next state. You know, if you have a laser injury by one of these people, they're you know, who do they call, they end up showing up in my office with it with a bra, right? Mm hmm. That that was created by somebody else. And so there's, it's kind of it's kind of the Wild West a little bit out there. And, and so you really kind of have to be careful about who you who you pick. That's good advice. That's good enough. So if you are looking at having some work done, obviously sweating a cosmetic is going to be your first call. But if you're not in this market, if maybe they're someplace else, what are the things that people need to be looking for? What what and I know, there's lots of terms, lots of certifications, but what does somebody need to look for when hiring a surgeon? Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, look at credentials, you know, being board certified, doesn't, it doesn't automatically make you a great surgeon. But what it does is it is it it at least you have a minimum amount of experience and learning, right and so it so that's a good place to start, you want to look to make sure somebody's board certified. Now the problem is that some of these guys will will tout themselves as the you know, as is like the most experienced or the or this or that, you know, they make these claims that are that are untrue, they make these claims that where it sounds like they might be or certified. So you don't really know until you get there, right? You can always call and if they tell you they are and then you find out they are, then you probably should call the medical board and tell them that something fishy is going on. Okay. So that's the minimum requirement, then, you know, the thing that you have today that you didn't used to have, are all these reviews, you know, so you could go and you could look at somebody, it's somebody reviews, and if they have no reviews, that's a red flag, red flag. Sure. If they have if they have five stars, and there's no negative reviews on there, that's probably a red flag. Yeah. And then you can go to their website, you can see what their what all their stuff looks like. And then when you go see the person, you just ask him pointed questions, you know, how many of these have you done, and I want to see pictures of your work, I want to see pictures that are from the internet, or from the company that sold you the machine, and those kind of things. So and if if you like the person, if you look at pictures, you can ask them for references. Most most of us have patients that don't mind if other patients call them and ask them questions and things. So you know, it's kind of like, like anything else. You know, it's always good to get a reference, if you're hiring somebody for a job. And so you can, you can always do that. So those are those are kind of things there. There are a lot of credentials, you know, if you're a fellow the American College of Surgeons, which is the F ACS or fellow, the American Academy of cosmetic surgery, those are all good things. But again, they're just learning ways to learn stuff. And they don't until you see pictures and talk to people and see that actual work. You don't know how good that individual really is. I think that could apply to a lot of Yeah, probably. I think yours is pretty, I mean, different level for sure. But I think that's everything you just said applies to what we all do. I want to see your wedding planning credentials. Amanda, where are those credentials? Where did you go to college? That's what I want to know. Yeah, I didn't. I'm self taught. I am. Yes. I don't even have a joke for right yes and need credentials. Yes. You got married back in August? What has it been like in the few months that you've been married? Think great, then we've been really good. I mean, this quarantine is a little crazy. For us or everyone. Yeah. But it's been good. It's been fun. It's been, you spent a lot of time together, which is really amazing. Our wedding was the best day ever. It was pretty great. You know? All these wonderful people that helped us make it. You can you can speak to this, you hired Amanda to be your wedding planner. If you could go back in time. Would you do that? Again, not just because it's Amanda, and she's amazing. But for all the people who might be watching or listening that is a is on the fence. As to whether to hire a wedding planner or not. What would you say to them? 100%? Yeah, I'm not. I'm not originally from here. And if especially if you're not familiar with me, most people, in my opinion, probably are not familiar with vendors and everyone else and it made it so easy. She knew everyone gave us options on who to pick. And it was the best thing that ever did was to hire her. Ooh. He's like a bulldog. Yes, she is. If they are give me trouble. I just got we got her. Yeah, we did a little bit. Not much, just a little bit. But there was definitely a time where I was like, now wait a minute now. Paying for that. As far as your wedding, what do you wish you would have known before your wedding day that you realized afterwards? Um, honestly, I feel like I did it. I mean, it was genuinely the perfect day. So I don't really have an answer for that. I knew everything that I needed to know, I one piece of advice that I would give to people is what I did was, I made sure that I had everything, pretty much finished until that week before. So I had the whole week to just enjoy, people started coming into town got to hang out. And that was one of the best things I did was to do that, because you don't want to be stressed out. You just want to enjoy it. Enjoy the people that are here for you. And so what was the best part of your wedding day? What's a happy memory? I've got a really happy memory for your wedding. But I want to let you I hope it's something I don't want to be the part where they gave you the money they paid you. Yeah, that's always my favorite memory. A good memory too. But no, there's something that happened that I thought was really cool. And I I won't ever forget this moment with your family. But, um, I'll let you share. I mean, it may not be the same one, but I just think it was. This was the happiest bride, I feel like you were the happiest bride all day long. And I feel like that every girl's happy. But like you had an absolute glow all day long. And I will never forget just looking at you. And you just you were floating, literally floating. And it was amazing. So yeah, what's your what's your happiest memory from your wedding? What's a great something that you'll take away the well, if it rains most of the day, which I suppose is like good luck. Yes. Yeah, um, but we were so obviously my mom's from Louisiana and my dad did a lot of his training down there. We have a lot of families still there. And so we wanted to kind of bring some of that heritage to our wedding and into Northwest Arkansas. And so one of my favorite moments was our second line we had, I did not at the end of our ceremony I wasn't aware this was gonna happen. But we had horns at the end of the aisle, and they just started blaring, the Monty girl song in the ceremony, basically. And I just remember being like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe this is the best thing ever. And it quit raining. You know, I just got ruined from all the you know, leftover rain and mud from it raining all day, but it was so much fun. Everybody had their little shifts and it was huge. All of that. Yeah, it was very fun. Like you were saying a lot of my pictures. My face is like love actually moment. Yeah, totally was Yeah, they just start playing. Yeah, at my wedding. They played a song just like that. Well guess what song it was. It was a beautiful song. It was a REM is the end of the world. The world as we know it. That was my wedding though. That's my favorite memory. Love it. I love it. Mine is a totally different memory. And I love that that's very happy. I was thinking about your veil. That was one of my most favorite memory was your veil. Of course I'm proud to talk about without crying but you know your mom, I guess the veil got stuck on the bus. Like somebody left it on the party bus and your mom looked at me and she's like, I've been called And cool, this whole thing, but if my daughter walks down the aisle without that veil, I will lose it and she had giant tears in her eyes. I mean, just she was about to, like really about to lose it. And I was like, I think she can do what you say she

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